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not six samurai they just got slapped in the face by blackwings they are pratically the same deck except one is actually playable and the other got left behind

six sams have hit the shits they had too relinquish the title of swarm
thax to blackwings *cough* bulshit *cough*

I dont really care for any of the support in Ancient Prophecy but I'm sure I'll be running some of it because I have room for like 8 cards. Idk if Lightsworns will get hit on the banlist, thier not hard to beat/side deck aganist unless these too cards make them broken. Thier just a lucksack deck. But Six Sam support is always welcome. I dont run Six Sam but I know a couple friends who do and they will be grateful to see some more support.

Lightsworn themselves would not be hit due to the fact they are not the top deck in japan right now or even in the US. Hopless Dragons, Blackwings, Synchro cat, and even plant synchro could take them out with ease. The only hings that they might touch if released in time would be Charge of the Light Brigade. Other possibilities would be Monster Reincarnation and Beckoning getting hit, due to the fact those are the cards that cause the deck to work over efficiently. with those cards hit it would be much harder for them to be more competetive

A Fish Synchro would be Amazing!!!
I wanted to play Fish when I saw Abyssal Kingshark and Cranium Fish in TAEV and everyone laughed at me, then we got SDKC and Golden Flying Fish in Phantom Darkness and people were like ok, then Oyser Mesiter and Fish Depth Charge and they were like thier getting pretty good, and then we got our Tuner and people were like Fish are actually something to watch out for. Now thier getting loads of support in the next 2 Sets and I couldnt be happier.

The fish synchro just runs like your fishing when you reel in that SDKC
into your hand....just to 20 seconds later blast them with dark strike fighter.... its fun.

Honest balanced? Are you kidding me? Honest scares even the biggest monsters, while keeping littler monsters like Lumina safe, and taking chunks of life. Honest can be played in more than just LS. LS, Twilight, CF, some morph builds still run honest, and any other deck that has a decent amount of LIGHT monsters. It can bypass certain things like Light-imprisoning mirror and stardust dragon and can easily take big monsters out. Not to mention you can stack them up for even more damage, honest can even end games if you use him right. And Honest is usually a surprise, your opponent will rarely ever see it coming.

Please, tell me how something like that is balanced? He's not the most broken thing out there currently (that award goes to DSF and maybe Rescue cat), but he's far from balanced. He should at least be semi'd.

Honest is themed support, much like how Allure is themed support for Darks. It allows Darks to power though their deck faster while Honest allows the "slower" light monsters to be able to preform heroic comebacks.

Of course, it's increadably effective in lightsworn, but it's the same way that DaD is a very, very condictional card, it if were not for the brillent support that could be used to get 3 in the grave and keep that control, DaD would never have taken off.

I think it could be semi limited, but any more then that is just silly. Honest itself is not broken, just the deck it is put in makes it powerful.

well allure got semi banned?

Rescue Cat's only broken insomuch as the early Synchros are broken; if it wasn't for the fact that the most popular and powerful Synchro monsters out there are level 5 and 6 (Brionac, Goyo Guardian, etc.), Rescue Cat would probably not see much play.

Honest, though, IS ridiculously broken, as it can be used on ANY Light monster, can be stacked, can be used during the damage step, and as stated, the opponent usually doesn't expects it. Plus it's easy to search for and get back after using it, so you can reuse it to your heart's content.

Aye, Rescue cat alone is not that much to worry about.

Though, the only thing broken about Honest is the price in my honest opinon. I have faced Blackwings with a pair of these things and while stronger, they are not that searchable.

Though in Lightsworn, thats another question, but because of the manner in which that deck works, it's more of a combination of things, most importently the Necros being there and the amount of battle control that decktype can force with minamal user imput.

if they made a lightsworn synchro i'll shit my self shitless in fear it gonna be worst than judgment dragon phttttttt yeah right im the lightsworn rapist ask jenis riiight jenis now git back in bed ill be in u in a minute lol

this does come out in christmas

woops lol your right my bad XP

they are these terrible spellcaster monsters that gain a level during each of your standby phases, and then they gain attack equal to their level x 200 I believe. I think they have a tuner, not a synchro tho. They are terrible cards, they start out at like 400 attack and it takes too long to get their attack high enough to do anything.

Dont waste your time playing with them at all.

They don't have a tuner, and the level 3/4 monsters gain 300 attack for each level, and 5/6 gain 400 attack. Obiviously, strength is not their fortay. But Darky and Earthy are strong enough to kill some monsters.

That being said, they don't really have the range of support to make them top tier, but as a causal deck I imagine they could be pretty fun. Check the OCG site for more details.

Lighty is the level 1, and part of the summoning engine behind the deck, Firey is level 2, and destorys a monster and burns equal to the destoryed monsters lifepoints when special summoned.

The whole spoiler isnt out yet, and Duel Monsters Unlimited most likely use the Anime Effect and/or have not update the latest SOVR info...

Even it is the anime or the real card effect, it rly works well with their own support and other spellcaster support..Is jus that u r nt familiar wif hw they work or u duel someone in DMU who uses broken god cards..

I have to say, u cnt treat fortune ladies as useless (is your opinion, I will not pursue further). But for your info, they r rly great for swarming and drawing cards wif the help of Fortune Lady Watery. Also..you may cause an argument here wif those tht do not agree to your statement..

fortune ladys suck . to hard to use.

Fortune Ladys suck, because they are to hard to use? Ok....I mean, LL, Six Samurai, Blackwing and Gladial Beast and the new Cat-Synchro are so easy to play.
Fortune Ladys are fun to play, with Endymion+Spell Counter maybe also one of the strongest spellcaster decks anyone could use. As far as I know were every Spellcaster deck hard to use and play, maybe this was the case, because they need more specific support for there own.
I have also dueled with them, but not on a game, I did it with proxies. And it works, not perfect but it works. I'm also using Magical Exemplar, Cristal Seer (both as support) and 1 Earthbound Immortal Aslla Piscu (the Field Spell is Future Vision, which runs extremly well with Aslla and Lighty). The only problem these Ladys has is, that they can not use Magician's Circle - I hate those "?"-Stats <.<

He didn't agree with you. -_-'
And it's "Manjyomethunder".

They might get some TCG support later on when they're released here... though it'll probably be Ultra/Secret.

2 monsters that not only give a Ritual Monster extra abilities when they're used to Ritual Summon it, but can be removed from the Graveyard as well as being Tributed from the hand or field...one of whom renders your opponent incapable of Special Summoning. No Dark Armed Dragon, no Judgment Dragon, no Fusion Monsters, no Synchro Monsters, NOTHING.

A new Ritual Monster, who can render itself immune from being destroyed by card effects so long as it has at least one of any number of selected cards in play, with a Ritual Spell that can be removed from the Graveyard to make a Ritual Monster impossible to target with card effects for a turn, and enough ATK to run over a Stardust Dragon to boot.

A Spell Card that retrieves a Ritual Spell from your Graveyard and searches out a Lv 1-7 Ritual Monster from your Deck.

A one-sided Cold Wave.


Where exactly is the "crappy" in all of this?

wow dude u hate on everything but u are right the time when ritual monsters where a threat is long past us yeah they may summon one once and a while
just to be dropped by PWWB or bottomless

How are you gonna get around them when you cant special summon anything and they cant be destroyed by card effects and possibly not even be targeted? Not to mention thier drawing everytime they kill something of yours, all at the cost of removing some cards from thier graveyard.

It will probably be out in November since a new set is released every 3 months.

cool is that brionac card gonna be in this set?

what did u give phantom of darkness that was a real good set?

what did u give phantom of darkness that was a real good set?
a c -

everything was good except it had cards that there where secret rare cards in it if they where more reasonable and had a common to ultra rare ratio it would have gotten an 100%

so since the secret rares are hard to obtain you bring the score down?
but based on the card themselves its an A right?

so since the secret rares are hard to obtain you bring the score down?: Yes not only that I really do not see these cards as anything but toys and it is way to out there to see these things for 150 to 3000 dollars in some cases I don't like secrets becasue there a waste of everryones time they make it harder for pepole who are not made of money to compete they give rich pepole an unfair advantage over the rest of us & make it harder for newer players to be competative as result less pepole play the game. the whole concept is not right this game is suppose to be for everyone.

the fact is this game is becoming more and more isolated if they keep heading down this road i see fewer and fewer pepole playing yugioh .

but based on the card themselves its an A right? :yup

yeah but now with all the reprints cards are easier to obtain like solemn

They DID stop making the original 80 cards of each set Secret Rare, which was very nice of them (Sarcasm meter is off the charts!).
Has there really been any card after #080 that has been a big deal, besides 'Allure of Darkness' and 'Charge of the Light Brigade'?
I still haven't seen that movie LOL.

This support is what Ritual Monsters have been waiting for. They kept making them without giving them what they needed. And c'mon, who hasn't owned/been owned by a deck using 'Advanced Ritual Art'?
I've even battled a Synchro deck that used a tonne of "brainwashing cards", including 'Reshef'.

Way too many of you guys take cards at face value, instead of thinking about how to optimize their potential.
Like the Fortune Ladies. They're brutal when used right. You can't just throw them and their support together from 2 sets and just expect them to work (although they're about Gladial-Beast-Level in terms of support) - you need cards like 'Interdimesional Matter Transporter' to optimize on 'Light', 'Noisy Gnat' and 'Synchro Boost' to give them a quick jolt...

By Earthbound Immortal Card I'm assuming a spell or trap, not a new monster

It'd be pretty tough to beat. Depending on its ability, of course.
But there's not really a Geoglyph for it; I think the only one left is The Dog...

hope its a earthbound god field spell that'd be quite cool

The people in this world who actually can find a excuse to be offended by anything would sue Konami.

It's a name. Stop getting your panties in a knot over it.

Besides, it's not like the card is going to be meta material...and there really is no difference in savior or majestic. Both are pretty bland.

I've seen ckaikd use 'Kinka-Byo' (from TDGS) used to Synchro Summon 'Majestic Star Dragon' very easily.
Just trying to help spark ideas.

Not saying Savior/Majestic/Whatever-the-fuck is a bad card. I'm just saying, I don't see it being meta material. It still needs to built up to, and despite the pretty awesome effects, it's only out for a turn. There's not enough time to take advantage of it. I can see it being a killer fun deck, or maybe even a low tier deck. But I don't see it being up at the top with Ls, Bw, etc.

the ritual support isn't that great its stuff wich removes itself as sacrifices for the ritual summon

Why would it be?

Do we really need the rituals? I haven't seen rituals played for quite a while. Anybody use 'em? Anybody?

WHY?

Right here.

Ritual Devil Releaser is going to be -devastating- in my opinion. I don't think you're gonna be dissing that blue card very much when its mere presence locks out your Extra Deck. Stardust, Gorz, Chimeratech...no dice. You're down to nothing but Normal Summons.

And we've already seen people get their kicks from editing in bull information just to see who believes.

Raging Battle-EN comes to mind as does Cyber Eltanin when the FIRST image came out.


Besides, there are certain things a database allows one to do that a "source" like wikia doesn't. Like searching by exclusive and select perimeters and filtering those results after. At this point, there's only one YGO database and it's not wikia or Netrep.

I wish there was one out there that was as good as The Gatherer for Magic the Gathering. That thing is just WOW.

It's a little deeper than that. A database still has to be designed for rapid perimeter searching and retrieval by definition.


Wikia is more like a old library or book depository that is still on where they are still on the old paper cards with the dewey decimal system and someone has to keep updating and changing the information so something will be incorrect or lacking and rapid retrieval is out of the question, let alone perimeter searching for something specific. The mere fact that at times, the pages won't even redirect due to so many people changing the names of pages or deciding what should be "allowed" even when correct and it won't even give you proper search option is proof that.

The difference of course is they now have a database in of itself now organized to the way people can best use it without assistance for whatever you're really looking for. Can you search for Level 7 only FIRE Demon-Type monsters and ONLY get those in your results on wikia? The answer is no. Don't even attempt to tell me you can just search for a PREMADE list (don't be someone of their own accord and only including what they knew themselves with the names they did) of all the Demons and toggle a few organizer options around and even with that that means you can only get a few at a time and you're still reading to ALL of it.

Depository, not database. YGO-card.de is a database and you can search as you wish there, even by phrase (though that is dependent on many things with so many uses of a phrase and variants and updating to include things).

They compounded the last two words and changed Lone to Ascendant.

Not that much of a change. When you account what Lone can stand for. Ascended Silverwind might have sounded better, but the name is fine really.


Not to mention, you're never going to use it anyway.

Ascendant sounds pretty badass...

Honestly, I think people are just too attached to Japan and think any sort of dubbing is wrong. Not really the case, but whatever.

I only hate dubbed names when they sound bad. For example, I preferred deformer more than morphtronic (though morphtronic has grown on me), but I like the English fortune ladies' names more than the Japanese (Japanese: Lighty, Darky, etc. English: Light, Dark. The y made the names seem silly...)

I mean, come on...
Japanese: Lone Silver Wind
English: Silverwind the Ascendant

Back to back, I still say the English sounds more badass...

I don't know about all that.


Lone Silver Wind was fitting of the design of being a ronin samurai.

Lone Silver Wind sounds more "bad ass" in that regard, but I don't think that's the point. I don't think EITHER is a bad name or better than the other.

Pretty much not that bad of a change.

I prefer Reptillian (but why is there an "e" at the end) over Reptiless. Does it really matter? These cards will probably be in this set only (perhaps 1-2 support cards for Absolute Powerforce at a chance).

It's another one of Konami's attempts to be cute with a pun; since all the Reptiless monsters are female (hence the "ess" at the end, to denote femininity), the "anne" at the end of Reptilianne is supposed to play off of that, "anne" a common way of feminizing male names (like Joanne for Joe, or Pollyann(a) for Polly).

Well, the episodes ARE on YouTube. It's not hard at all to find them. In them, Misty seemed to call her monster just "Reptile Gorgon" in place of "Reptiless" or "Reptillianne", so I'd have to wait and see what they're actually called :P
4Kids, man...

shriek also has OCG Stardust Overdrive spoiler but it's not necessary yet to incorperate it into the TCG one. Some of the OCG card names can change (as is "Silverwind the Ascendant"), we don't have TCG card images, and we don't have any clue what the promo/TCG only cards are. Besides, Ancient Prophecy just came out. We have to wait 2-3 months for the spoiler of this set (TCG).

Yeah, not only that, but Shriek's got tournament results from Japan if you wanna see what they play.
And yeah, the main thing most of us want from this is the cards #081 and up.
You know, I think it's a bit odd that there's only 2 months between the release of ANPR and the Sneak Peek of SOVR - I thought they were going more for 3 months between, but if they keep it that way, they can fit 4 sets into 10 months.
Just saying is all.
I don't even have a guess for the SP Promo, but I'm gonna bet on it being either a Reptile (even if it's an Alien), another "defence-mode manipulator" spider, or another EBG card (I mean outside of the cards already somewhat know, because I'd assume they're the 80's cards).

I Know about shriek but manjyomethunder has a nicer lay out
I just gave that link for people who don't know about it

the only thing really different about the layout is the color though oO

or did i miss something? XD

exactly I just prefer the colour

Nothing in there about Clear Vice Dragon yet, just Clear World.

Personally, I'm more intrigued by Koa'ki Meiru Maximus. Could be the thing to break the KM archetype into the forefront.

Can't I?


Just like the only thing that would make me happier than Dark Simorgh is if Konami announced LE17 and it had Scab Scar Knight in it retaining its text from Tag Force 3 (just like Clear Vice Dragon is a perfect hybrid of the anime and TF3 text).

I really hope Maximus is awesome, I've got 3 Dragos so I could build a Koa'ki Meiru-Dragon deck pretty easily.

I also hope Clear Vice Dragon is in it, I don't see why he won't be (unless he'll be one of the Special Edition promos, which is doubtful as he's an OCG card at the moment).

Dark Simorgh actually might convince me that all the time spent getting multiple Delta Crow's and Swallows Nest was actually worth it :D

Given we're getting Clear World and Guardian Eatos, I suspect we'll get Clear Vice Dragon so to finish off the LE15 set releases.

Dark Simorgh has been around in OCG for a long while now and it hasn't change anything even though it's a great card.


I hope Alector is in this too unless it's kept as an R promo.

Asmodeus and Kristia would be great too.

Agreed on the pointlessness of the Koa'ki Meiru monsters; while I've complained in the past about the archetypes Konami comes out with being too self-contained (like the Crystal Beasts), this is the complete opposite: it has literally no self-continuity whatsoever. It's virtually impossible to build a proper deck around them; with each Koa'ki Meiru monster requiring either showing a specific type of card (of which there are precious few monsters in the archetype that actually share the card type needed for that) or ditching Iron Core (which you can only have three copies of, and is difficult to recycle even with its own self-recycling effect and the recursion effect of other cards in the archetype), there's hardly any way of ensuring they remain on the field at any one time. As has been stated several times before, these cards really are best used by themselves, splashed in a deck with the proper cards to keep them on the field; Doom for Fiends, Drago for Dragons, etc. Unless they come out with another card or three that can substitute for Iron Core, the Koa'ki Meiru archetype is pointless.

OMG, I've played the few CPU characters on Stardust Accelerator, and WOW! Dark Simorgh is a nightmare! I want him so bad!! LOL

I'm wondering the same thing about the Senet Switch support; I would love to have more cards like Blasting Fuse or Rampaging Rhynos. Ironic that they came in the same pack as the Cyberdark monsters. Seems like the cards from that pack are always being overlooked.

Then again, where's the new Toon support? Why does Konami have an aversion to making decent Beast/Beast-Warrior support? Why are they just NOW making new union support? Where's my Dark Panther Warrior? So many cards they could be focusing on, but aren't. So many missed opportunities...

HEY!!!1 crystal beast needs some support too!!! they r completely awesome. i used to play it until the DAD return came. the only supports they created was for RD which r completely useless from PTDN + LODT... i wish they would add some more cards from anime=[...

for cyb3rdark's support. i think it would be cool if they release "samsara dogma" for the next random sets...n the most epic card..."power wall".....lolZ~

Stardust Dragon.

Fire off an effect to destroy something, let your opponent negate it with Stardust, then bring Victoria out and swipe it. The fact that she's an 1800-ATK no-Trib with the Marauder Lock is just a huge bonus.

I wonder if any of the secret or ultimate/ultra would be over 100$ in this set. Since there is 2 new LS monsters, i predict they are gonna be pricy!

If the 2 New LS monsters has a fusion, than it would be a different game for the LS deck. Also if it is a secret i predict it would be like Vayu! The price and the rareness would be like it!

well if I would have SJ by now i would probably have known.
but that's sadly not the case...

Thanks, though!

I didn't notice it looked that way, so I'm glad you didn't take it that way.
I didn't exactly mean "read it in SJ", I meant anywhere like in a forum or something too. If I had a scanner, I'd send you pics of the page.
Sadly, those were the only cards previewed this month (because they were showing the next 2 Tins (Majestic Star Dragon and Wiraqocha Rasca), not the SOVR set (probably next month).
:)

heh, looks like i'm reading the wrong forums then. xD

and yes, SJ normally doesn't contain much info, but seeing how long it takes me to get mine i don't really mind that. :D

thanks for the full spoiler

Enlightenment is actually EN065 (JP065 - Prophecy of the Future King)


The missing TCG-Ex is actually just KM Beetle, but it gets forgotten because it's 000 instead of being an 80 series.

Sorry for any confusion.

I've got to laugh at Dark Rabbit being in this set, as well; I mean, really, shouldn't that have been in a McDonald's promo set or something?

Otherwise, the Shueisha cards are fairly decent, I like most of the name changes (some are a little weird, but more in a "that's not entirely appropriate for that card" way than in an "ew, that name sounds horrible" way), and I'm really interested in the TCG-only cards, especially Maximus, Yellow Baboon, Metabo - Shark, and Gemini Scorpion. This is going to be a very interesting set, indeed.

They probably have him in reserve as a future Shonen Jump promo, or maybe even the Absolute Powerforce TCG set. I'm sure we'll get it, sometime. I'm sure we'll get him, eventually.

Dark Rabbit Control is going to be a mean decktype. I'm sure it'll put Beaver Warrior OTK to shame.

The Main Deck Type you will see at big tournaments like Shonen Jump Championships or World Championships will be Dark Rabbitsworn. This is so hard, to win against. I see it coming:
Beaver Warrior OTK against Dark Rabbitsworn. Dark Rabbitsworn begins, Solar Recharge, Solar Recharge, Charge of Light Brigade, Summon Dark Rabbit, Set 2 cards face down, End of Turn. The opponent has lost anyway.

You forgot Metabo - Shark, the Fish-Type monster we were promised. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a Fish version of Metabo Globster or something. I just hope it's a WATER monster with a fairly good effect, and NOT a Tuner or a Synchro (want to put it in the deck of a character in a story I'm writing, but it takes place during GX, so I'm trying to stay as far away from Synchros as possible).

And "Faustian" refers to Faust, a literary character who makes a deal with the devil for power or something. A "Faustian deal" is, thus, a deal that requires "selling your soul" (ie. paying an outrageous and immoral price) to gain something. In this case, you're offering a Special Summoned monster to be able to summon out a Normal Monster - a steep price, depending on which player's monster is being removed from the field, and what the monster is.

we don't necessarily know its that dark rabbit thats the same dark rabbit i thought of maybe its a DARK form of dark rabbit

Um, yes, it's the same Dark Rabbit; there's only 1 Dark Rabbit in the entire OCG (and Dark Rabbit listed here is part of the other OCG cards we're getting), and that monster IS a DARK monster. So, yeah, it is the same weak, Normal monster we're thinking of.

This set after reviewing the spoiler seems ok its nothing major there better be some x-saber stuff in absolute powerforce

... if the cost was to send a Lightlord/sworn from your Deck to the Graveyard while Spirit was in the GY to trigger the effect?

This is Lightlord, why would you REMOVE it from your GY and eat your own Judgment Dragon fodder. It would be like the Dark Grepher for the deck. two LLs in GY, and potentially will rush the flow to get JD faster. Not that a design like that would/should be allowed anyway.

Besides, LLs already have another attack stopper. It's called Lightlord Barrier (Lightsword Barrier). Problem is only with people just not using it because it's a Trap and therefore prejudicially hated by default.

Because, Necro Gardna only negates 1 attack - my idea of Shire's effect would block all attacks for the turn meaning it should ideally have a negative cost - sending from deck to Graveyard would just be overpowered as you could not only negate all attacks but drop a Wulf too setting up for a Celestia summon.
Also, main reason Lightsworn Barrier isn't used much is because it relies on a Lightsworn being an attack target, which is inconsistent when your field gets wiped by something basic like Lightning Vortex or Gyzarus.

Most likely this card will have a Super Rare rarity or higher even if its effect is probably going to suck.
Metabo Globster summons tokens when it's used to Advance Summon/Tribute a DARK monser. I expect Metabo-Shark to follow the same principle except for that monster being WATER.

Dude, it's already confirmed that Maximus is a Dragon-Type, and if you want a good Koa'ki Meiru monster for Dragon decks, look no further than Koa'ki Meiru Drago; you can easily keep it on the field by showing 1 Dragon monster in your hand, and it prevents Light and Dark monsters from being Special Summoned, which - considering most of the good Dragon-type monsters outside of DAD-Synchro are neither of those Attributes - you shouldn't have much problems with it.

And Dragons already have their own archetype, in Japan: they're called the Dagunity monsters, and they combine with Winged Beast-Type monsters of the same Archetype for some pretty cool pseudo-Union type effects. Yes, it sucks that they're currently an OCG Duel Terminal exclusive, but still, you should be happy with the Dragon monsters we're already getting. I'm still pissy that we're not getting any real decent Beast/Beast-Warrior support, but I'm happy enjoying my Berserking and Spiritual Forest, thank you very much.

Wow, you're really harsh on Lightsworns, huh? What's your deal with them? They must not be as bad as you say, considering how they've been near the top of the tournament scene for the past year. Now, I'm not saying that you don't have a point with the new Lightsworns (300 ATK per DIFFERENT Lightsworn monster in the Graveyard, with a starting ATK of 500, doesn't build up very fast, and returning a Lightsworn monster from your Graveyard to your Deck to draw a card? Shouldn't that be the opposite? Especially since it says "SEND 1 Lightsworn monster from your Graveyard to your Deck", and usually, sending a card is usually done TO the graveyard, not FROM), but still, you must really not get the point behind Lightsworns to make such a negative blanket comment like that about them.

no, he's right, the only way those cards are playable would be if one of them was a tuner. And it wouldn't be the flip effect one. I think he's just being "harsh" on those new cards not the whole theme

No, he says right in his first statement that Lighsworns AS A WHOLE are crap, HAVE always been crap, and that - judging from these new support cards - WILL always be crap. It's clear that he has a soft spot for the Six Samurai cards, which is why he voiced only mere disappointment with the new Six Samurai card, but he clearly doesn't like the Lightsworn cards at all.

And I never stated that these cards weren't bad; I even stated halfway through my previous post that I saw his point with how disappointing they were. But that doesn't justify such a vitriolic response to the cards and the archetype, in general.

his exact words are "the lightsworns are crap" not all ls are crap, you put words in his mouth when you say as a whole, and thate Have and will always be crap is in your post, not his.

Unless your referring to a different post on this thread that I didn't read, a lot i didn't read, and you know his opinion based on that, then sure, your probably right, but semantics in his post dictate that he could have just been talking about the new ls support. But its not like its up to us to care about his opinion. If you hate ls your certainly free to...not that you don't feel that way,

Jeez, what the hell? Why is everyone bashing on all of the TCG exclusives? Is it just the new fad, or something? Or are you guys just not going to be happy until they make broken-ass support for your precious Cat-Synchro? I guess Konami should apologize for even daring to make some of the old archetypes relevant, now. At least they're REMEMBERING support like Fish and Six Samurai. BE GRATEFUL.

...shows the card as a Warrior, that much is readable even if those guys wouldn't know a STEADY CAM setup if it was attached to their spinal column.

I mean really... just put the cards on something to prompt them up and put the camera in front... simple as that. It's like everyone has to go Blair Witch Style of Cinematography.

Oh, waah! Suck it up and deal with it; you can't always get what you want, and you have to make due with what you have. Be thankful you got Lava Dragon and Vanguard of the Dragon. Hell, you could practically make an OTK deck around Vanguard and Spirit Ryu, especially considering the latter's combo with Super Rejuvenatioen, and the former's ATK boost being PERMANENT.

Stop whining for good support and make due with what you have. Yes, I know you'd like better support for Dragons; I'd like better support for Beast/Beast-Warriors, but like I said, I'm enjoying my Berserking and Spiritual Forest just fine, thank you very much.

Right, which is why all of your posts have thus far been complaining about the lack of Dragon support, and how much you want it. GIVE IT A FUCKING REST. You seriously have no room to bitch about this; you got your support with Lava Dragon and Vanguard of the Dragon, and if it ever comes out in the TCG, the Dragunity monsters. You don't like it? TOUGH. There are far more monster types and archetypes that DESPERATELY need the support more than Dragons; Gravekeepers, Harpies, Thunder, Beast-Warrior, Toons...I could list them all day. I'm telling you to shut up and accept the support that you've already gotten, recently; yes, it would be nice for more support to come out faster, but you take what you can get, and I wouldn't consider Vanguard of the Dragon or Laval Dragon to be pitiful support, especially when compared to something like, oh...Minoan Centaur, whose effect only targets a scant DOZEN targets to choose from, not even HALF of that being any good. Yeah, compare that to the dozens of Normal Dragons Vanguard can bring out, or the dozens of level 3 or lower Dragons that Lava Dragon can bring out, most of which are actually DECENT. Yeah, that's real crappy support, there, for Dragons.

Also, you like to contradict yourself, don't you? Your last post had you whining that you just want a "decent theme" for Dragons, yet you didnt want to use the Dragunities, because you HATED using theme decks. Yeah, that's logic, for you. First of all, not all themes are good (Koa'ki Meiru being a prime example), and two, you don't have to have a theme to make a good deck, just a good strategy and a good idea of what you want to do with the deck. You want to make a good dragon deck? Fine: there are PLENTY of powerful Dragons and support already waiting for you. USE THOSE instead of waiting for Konami to pander to your desire to make one and spoonfeed you your deck for you.

And learn how to respond to someone's posts properly; there's a "reply" link at the end of it, for a reason.

While I share your disagreement of the Secret Rare rarity, lighten up. At least we get lots of cool ocg cards with this set - it's not too often this happens. Also, I hate getting crap cards as secret much more as it feels that I spent a lot of money for pretty much nothing - there aren't any crap secrets in this set at least (even Clear World/Clear Vice are pretty cool) So stop complaining - it's better than not getting any OCG cards whatsoever (aside from the original 80 of course).

BUT... Judges (high ones that matter) claim that Nimble is simultaneous. So it should work with Yellow.

I guess, I suppose you'll be aiming to summon more than once per turn with Six Sam anyway so yeah, that might be cool. The first effect seems kinda lame though. It's neat it can remove counters from other cards too though, so you could play two of these and only have to summon once to get the RotA effect.
Also, SO close with the Beetle effect... only thing that wasn't right was that the actual card had "LIGHT or" instead of "Level 4". Easy mistake when you think about it. :P Glad I was wrong though, that means it can at least stop a Demise/Judgment/DaD/Gyzarus from attacking after blowing stuff up, so basically anti-OTK right thar.

I'm hoping at my sneak peak I can gather up all the Rinyan and Shire people pull. :p I want to walk away with AT LEAST 3 of each. :3

Yeah, because we give such a damn about your financial problems that it dictates how everyone else looks at the game. How conceited of you.

Seriously, it's good that you're leaving, because that just means more cards for us. "Wah wah wah, I can't get the cards I want because they're Secret rares! Wah wah wah!" Bullshit; all that means is that you can't as readily pull them from packs. I bet you 10 to 1 they're not going to be worth much, when the set comes out, since you forgot that the prices for cards are dictated primarily by how much people want them for their bullshit netdecks. I, honestly, can't see most of the Secrets being worth much more than $10, after the set comes out.

And besides, why are you wasting your time with card packs and asshole duelists for your card collecting? Don't you have a hobby shop that lets you buy and trade cards with them directly? Or an ebay account? That's where I get most of my cards, and I haven't had much problems there.

Anyone bitching that they can't get their precious cards because they're a higher rarity needs to shut up and grow a brain; my local shop puts its prices at what the cards are currently selling for, and VAYU is going for more than most of their SECRETS, even cards like Stardust Dragon. What does that tell you? It tells you you need to stop whining about the price, because the cards you're complaining about are bound to be several degrees LESS expensive than the cards that ARE going to be highly sought-after.

I don't quite understand why you suddenly quit, because from the context it seems you're quitting because of the new set (which surely you know would happen months ago - there's always going to be another set on the horizon, more than likely with secret rares). Because surely you can just use the cards you have. And if there's a new card you really want, try trading. You don't have to buy continuously to be able to play the game. Just because other people are buying doesn't mean you have to in order to hang around with them. Also, if you want to sell all your cards, build a fun cheap deck like morphtronics. Sure it may not be lightsworns, pcm, or whatever, but you can still duel, hang around with other duelists, keep up to date and generally have fun.
If saving money enough reason for you to outright quit, then you probably won't understand my point, so sorry for wasting your time. However if you do stick in the game (in what I call minimalist form), then you'll still be on form when you have enough time/money to rejoin properly and won't be caught out by things you've forgotten or new strategies you're not used to, and in the mean time you get to have a few hours of fun a week hanging out with people you know that you share a hobby with, which is always nice.

WTF...

Did you really did to say so much mean ass shit in one paragraph? Yeah, hes going to quit because the game takes a bit of money and right now I dont know if you noticed Mr. Fucking-I-get-all-the-cards-I-need-from-vendors, we are in a ECOMONICAL DEPRESSION! Yes, for some right now its harder than others. We are sorry we cant all fucking genuis like you! Hamster is cool if you quit dude. Ive almost quit a couple of times because of money. Lucky for me I have a few friends with ass loads of money that really like playing the game, so he just abuys all the boxes and cards for the team. IDK he like has a great job but his parents dont make him pay for shit so he just waste his money on whatever XD.

SynjoDeonecros its not that serious dude! If he wants to quit let him, no need to fucking put him down and bitch at him. Just to let you know im some place its hard to get good cards...

Hamster let me know if you are selling any of your cards, im looking for some stuff that is not that hard to get...

War Arms
Powerhand
book of moons(common)

Stuff like that. Get back to me...

Yeah I think Christia would make great sworn support with honest...which is right around the corner in twilight edition.

Guys let all just try to relax and enjoy the game ^_^

Problem is getting them into your hand all at once. I really like Herald of orange but because you need that and another fairy i fear that i would not always have them both in hand. I think putting in tethys would be good to ensure you get them...but now i dont even think we are talking about sworns lol

Thank very much I can't ask you to do that I really appreshate it though thank you so very much.:)

So true...the other day I happen to be talking to some friends of mine that play Magic the Gathering.

O.O dude some of thoes cards are going for THOUSANDS...

I know for a fact I will never pay more than 50 bucks for a single card...

..."Well-informed"? Why are you putting words in my mouth? Have I ever given people the impression or stated outright that I'm "well-informed"? Do I look like Shinobi Phoenix to you? No? Didn't think so.

I have every right to be snarky at idiots like that, for one specific reason: they contribute NOTHING to the game but drama, complaints, and moronicism. They are spoiled, wanting their precious fucking game-breaking cards handed to them on a silver platter, and the moment they realize they actually have to WORK to get them, they start getting anal about it. People complain about how unfair the Rarities are? TOO FUCKING BAD! You guys only really complain about THAT, because all of your precious cards that you want to get your grubby little hands are are that rarity. You wouldn't complain if all of the Secrets were cards you didn't give a crap about, now would you? Being Secret Rares means NOTHING, in terms of how much you'll have to pay for it; I've got several secret rares in my collection that are worth less than nothing, now, because no one wants them; no one thinks they're good. As I said, VAYU is more expensive and harder to get a hold of than most of the Secrets in the same pack it came in.

Also, if you're so damned concerned about your financial situation in regards to the game, then EBAY IS YOUR FRIEND. Not only are you able to sell off the cards you don't want at a decent price, but you're also able to usually BUY the cards you want at a decent price, as well. That's how I usually get my cards. If you're really stupid enough to buy a box, hoping to get each and every single fucking card you want from the set, then your money is best off spent elsewhere, since that same amount of money could get you all the cards you want off of ebay or your local card shop as SINGLES.

Hell, wasn't there a point, after Secrets returned and after Ultimates got regulated to the Ultras, where people complained that the SUPER RARES were the hardest cards to get a hold of? I do remember people bitching about how the card they wanted was out of their reach, because it was a SUPER rare, and since Supers no longer had an Ultimate counterpart, getting the one you wanted was harder than getting a Secret. Yeah people tend to forget that little part of history, don't they? Fucking idiots.

My point is that the argument is useless, flawed, and is only fueled by the individual's hatred that the card that they wanted to get easily they actually have to do some digging for. It's the same when people complain that their Secret Rares are now crap, because the cards are being reprinted at a lower rarity in another set, or when people complain that a card is removed from a structure deck that they wanted, because it was "too hard for them to get" otherwise. It's all hypocritical greed, complaining that you can't get what YOU want without any effort, then turning around and complaining that the hard to get card you ALREADY have is going to be made available for OTHER people to get, easily. If ANYONE needs to get off their high horses, its YOU GUYS. Learn to be happy with what you're given, and use your brain to figure out how to get it for yourself. If you can't get it from the packs, you can always wait until they're available on ebay or in the cabinet of your local card shop, and if you're still not happy with the price there, just wait; they'll be reprinted as an easier to get promo or something later on down the road. If you still don't believe me, tell it to Des Volstgaph and Crush Card Virus.

All I was saying was that there was no need (in my opinoin) to be that mean and rude. You could have easily said everything in such a way that it wouldnt bring people down. Had he posted 50 times about how he is quiting, then yes I would understand.

BTW: I am willing to bet i have far wores cards then most of you on here and you dont see me complaining about stuff. there is always someone who is wores off then you. My teammates dont have all the stuff i have hence the reason why he bought the boxes and why HE AND I are going to pitch in together to get half a case of ABPF. Having a team is a great way to beat KDE at there rip you off game. Three people buying 4 boxes is much easier than just one person, trust me I know. Ive been doing this with team mates since Duelist Genisis

It wasn't just him; he was just the culmination of the asshatery here about how "expensive" the game's become. Seriously, it was clear that he was saying "I can't get the cards I want cheaply, so I can't play the game anymore, and no one else will, either, because they can't afford the cards they want, too". I'm just pointing out how bullshit of an excuse that is; like I said, these cards aren't going to be worth NEARLY as much as you predict, and by the time they're available on ebay, you're likely going to be able to buy all the cards you want from it for the same price it would take to buy an entire booster box. There ARE ways of getting the cards you want/need cheaply, if you actually think about it instead of whining about how all the "best" cards are Secrets. Unless the cards you're looking for is Vayu the Emblem of Honor, Kanan the Swordsmistress, or Plaguespreader Zombie, you're likely NOT going to have to pay more than $20 maximum for any one card, even less if you buy in bulk and go for a 2 or 3-fer.

Now, to be perfectly honest, my mate and I do occasionally trade in our cards at our local card shop in exchange for a booster box, but we don't do it because we want to try and get the cards we want from it; we know it's a crapshoot, and we regulate that to ebay, trades, buying singles at the card shop, or buying single packs at Wal Mart. The boxes we buy simply to say we bought a box, and to see what all we DO get in it, regardless if it's what we wanted or not. My mate has two Earthbound Immortals that he has in his binder, and even though he doesn't do anything with them, he's happy with them because he had the fortune to pull it, nothing more. That's the main point I'm trying to make, here: if you're pissy and want to leave the game, because the card you want is of a rarity that makes it harder for you to pull from a pack or box, then you shouldn't be buying packs or boxes, in the first place; you should be looking into getting the card through trade or buy from ebay. You'll be a lot better off, especially financially. Leave the box-buying and pack-pulling to the collectors and the duelists who don't CARE what they get in the packs, as long as they can get SOMETHING they can brag about.

You know, I haven't really been able to buy many cards this year, and have almost completely missed Crimson Crisis and Raging Battle, but that doesn't mean I haven't been looking at card prices. And on eBay, cards cost way less now than they used to. Ultras and Secrets used to be over $30, but now you can easily get them for less than $20. Aside from the obvious 3, of course.
So nobody really has a good reason to go on about the cost of the game.

If you'd have actually read any of my posts, you'd know my problem: people bitching about how they can't get the cards they want because they're all Secret Rares, people threatening to leave because they can't afford the cards they want, etc. It's stupid, and I'm getting sick of it. These are the same fucking people who whine and complain when the card they tried so damn hard to get ends up getting released as an easier-to-get tin promo or something, because now their card isn't work anything on the market, and everyone can get a copy of it. Don't you find that a bit hypocritical? And, as I said, the cards they're whining about aren't going to be worth diddly on ebay or their local card shop, anyway, when the set comes out, so complaining about how impossible it'll be to get them is moronic. I'm just pointing out to everyone how stupid they are for complaining about something as ludicrously pointless as RARITIES in this game, and how furthermore stupid it is for someone to quit the game over it.

No. I don't respond to demands, and you just validated my argument, so no, I have no reason or inclination to apologize.

You are whining that the game's become too damn expensive for you, because OMFG the cards you want are of a rarity you and everyone else here is swearing up and down will be rarer and more valuable than the fucking Holy Grail. Fuck you. If you had bothered reading any of MY posts, you'd have seen I've torn all of that idiocy down to its barest roots and shown how bullshit it is. Every. Single. Damn. Card. You. Think. Will. Be. Too. Hard. And. Too. Expensive. For. You. To. Buy. WILL. NOT. BE. No one's going to want Victoria, only a handful would play Dark Simorgh, Archlord Krystia will only be used for trade fodder, and all of the other OCG cards in this set are going to suffer the same damn fate. NONE of these cards will be worth more than $20 on ebay or your local card shop, AT MOST. More realistically, the $100 you pay for a single BOX of this set, trying to get that one Secret Rare you've been drooling over, would be able to get you TWENTY of them. And don't try to bullshit your way out of this by saying how expensive those cards are, NOW; that's ONLY because the set hasn't been RELEASED, yet. The cards being put up for auction are SNEAK PREVIEW cards. Once the set is out in stores, expect these prices to plummet.

So, your reason for leaving because the game is "too expensive" is bullshit, and while I respect your decision to go to college, there's no fucking reason why you should be forced to choose between the two. You and everyone else on here who is arguing and agonizing and bitching about the expense of the game, now, SOLELY because of the Secret Rares, are morons that need to be smacked down and shut up. As I said, there was a time when this same exact argument, THIS SAME. EXACT. ARGUMENT, was used for people whining about how the cards they wanted were now SUPER rares, other than the commons or normal Rares that they wanted it to be. Fuck you all. You want to leave the game over this shit, go right ahead, but you ARE a conceited moron for doing so, because you are basing your decision on a fallacy that - if you'd use your brain for once and stop trying to whine to Konami to hand out the cards you want on a silver platter for you - you'd realize is bullshit and doesn't prevent you from getting the cards you want ONE IOTA. Remember, VAYU is currently FAR more expensive than DARK ARMED DRAGON. How is THAT for your paycheck, huh?

so you think I'm just complaining about price .your to trusting I'm complain about exploitation and BS it's one thing to provide products and services but what there doing is exploitation plain and simple and that is wrong they are taking what should be a toy and turning it into a printing press and you don't do that at the level there doing it they have reach a point where it is unreasonable dishonest so i don't care people who chose not make an honest dollar don't deserve any money they should be sent to jail and taking advantage of others is evil. at the end of the day these cards are just toys if they wanted them to be worth something then it shouldn't call it a game you still don't get it I'm quiting because i refuse to let people take advantage of me and i don't like IT when they take advantage of other people either and i'm not the only one who thinks so.

Exploitation? How the fuck are they exploiting anyone? That newly anounced Twilight pack set with Honest in it? THAT is exploitation; with that, they're catering to the netdecking elite and wannabes and scalping money from their desire to win at all costs with the most popular deck out there. What the fuck are they trying to exploit, with making Secret Rares? Nothing, that's what; they could make ANY SINGLE CARD IN THE SET Secret Rares, and you'd STILL bitch, for not being able to get it at the bottom dollar. Face it: you're just bitter because you can't get the cards you want at the price you think you should get them at, ie. less than $5 to free. That's the ONLY reason that you and everyone else are demanding Konami's head on a platter for keeping the Secret Rares. Curious how this old song and dance was done to a MUCH lesser degree back when UDE was doing it. Remember? People bitched that the Light and Dark Structure Decks weren't released, and the new cards in them were released as Secret Rares in Strike of Neos and Force of the Breaker, but when they were kept in Tactical Evolution on, with the TCG-Only cards and the OCG cards that came from Gladiator's Assault on, no one complained. And, again, I must remind you that, during that time, people were complaining more about cards being SUPER Rare than they were of ANY OTHER RARITY, because - at that time - Super Rare cards were harder to get than even the Secrets.

You guys are hypocritical bastards. No one's taking advantage of you; you're just too fucking cheap and too fucking spoiled to actually go in and to some basic research into how to get the cards, that you'd rather bitch and moan and complain about not getting them for pennies from the get-go. You are fucking idiots, and it's good that you're leaving, because we don't need your idiocy clogging up the game.

And for the record, UDE did a more damaging evil to the game with their counterfeit scheme than Konami is doing printing out the Secrets. Also, it's a commercialized franchise; WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT THEM TO DO, GIVE OUT THE CARDS FOR FREE?! OF COURSE THEY'RE GOING TO TRY AND MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT, YOU MORON! YOU HAVE TO PAY $20 JUST TO GET INTO THE SNEAK PREVIEW, ANOTHER $10 OR SO TO PLAY AT YOUR LOCAL TOURNAMENT! ANOTHER $5 TO BUY THE MANGA! HOW THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THEY MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE FRANCHISE?!

your kinda being nieve
oh please they would make more money and have more custmers if they did it my way it's not about money there obviously pushing pepole out of the game so they can take money from pepole like you the fact is it's about expolitashion and lazyness period insted of taking the time to find out who there customers are how much they can afford to spend what do pepole like and there propbaly doing it half assed and you know it. No one in there right mind would give someone a ton of cash for card board so in the end the game will end up being isolated your just one of these pepole who have had everything handed to your entire life and don't know what is like to be on your own trying feed your self trying to pay for school and i think your afried that if every one had a fair chance you wouldnh't win at the tornaments and rather thenn address the problem you want thiungs to stay the way they are you don't care about konami and the other players and you have chosen to fight me so you can keep winning becasue you like having an unfair advantage over us .this game has become about those who have always beating those who don't,and that is not the way things are suppose to be pepole should win becasue there the best not becasue there ultra rich it's not copetision some pepole have an unfair advantage over others , so don't gived me that bs the fact is they are being very minpultive and if you can't see it i'm done talking to you .

You are an idiot. I NEVER got what I wanted, in life; I had to buy every single card I own with my own fucking money, and I STILL was able to get most of the cards I wanted, even if they were Secret Rares, at a reasonable price. Why? Because unlike you morons, I follow the card prices, and I know for a FACT THAT YOU ARE FUCKING WRONG.

Rarities mean JACK FUCKING SHIT; what dictates the price of a card is primarily its DEMAND; again, a card like Vayu is worth $48 bucks, currently, because it's in high demand with duelists, despite it being ONLY A FUCKING SUPER RARE. Destiny Hero Malicious is also a Super Rare, but it's going for $22, thanks to its high demand. Mirror Force is going for $35, despite originally being a Super Rare and being reprinted up the wazoo, because of its popularity. However, cards like Rainbow Dark Dragon, a Secret Rare, is only going for $17, because it is NOT popular, nor is Tethys, Goddess of Light going for more than $13, despite being a Secret Rare, because it is not popular. Now how can you explain that, if your theory that Secret Rares ALWAYS are more expensive and harder to get than Supers is true? You can't, BECAUSE IT ISN'T FUCKING TRUE. I count only 2 Secrets in this set that would garner ANY interest - Dark Simorgh and Guardian Eatos - and I'm betting neither of those will peak above $30, $40 at the most. And y'know what? A quick search on Ebay confirms this; NONE of the Sneak Preview Eatos auctions are going above $40, and none of the bids on Dark Simorgh have gone above $40, either (and the ones who have $70 as their opening bid don't have ANY bids on them, yet, despite closing in a day). Simple economics is a bitch, ain't it?

And just how are having the Secret Rares making it impossible for people to have a 'fair advantage" of getting them? It took me a while, but I managed to crunch the numbers: while you only have a 4.16% chance of getting a Secret Rare in a single box, the chance that it's the one you want is 12.5%, whereas the chance of getting a Super Rare is 20%, but the chance that any one of them is the card you're looking for is only 7.14%. And yes, I know that you could potentially get more than 1 copy of the same Super Rare in a box, in which case the percentage that you'd get the card you want jumps (up to 35.71%, if all 5 cards are the one you want), but in practice, the 13 other Super Rares in the set (and the equal percentage that THEY would have as many copies of themselves occupying that 1:5 spot) mean there's a much, MUCH lower chance of you getting the Super Rare you want, opposed to you getting the Secret Rare you want. Which is why people were bitching about cards being Super Rares, back during the time between Tactical Evolution and Light of Destruction; they knew that their chances of getting the card they want would be LOWER if it was a Super Rare, than if it was ANY OTHER RARITY, INCLUDING SECRET RARE. Simple economics kicks your ass, once again.

So your argument that you can't play anymore because Konami is "exploiting the rich" and "stealing your money" is total and utter BULLSHIT. the numbers don't lie, percentage-wise AND money-wise; they all show that you CAN get the cards you want at a reasonable price AND more readily than you claim. The only reason why you're whining is because you can't - or won't - do simple fucking math, and can't stand the idea of not getting the cards you want without any fucking effort on your part. What would it take for you to stop whining, make all the cards you want Commons? If they did that, you'd be bitching about how EVERYONE can get their hands on them, just like how you and everyone like you who are bitching about the same damn thing complain when Konami reprints a valuable card that you want. It's hypocritical and it's sad and it's stupid. They are NOT being manipulative, they are NOT trying to give other players an unfair advantage by rigging the rarities like this, they are NOT trying to exploit players, YOU ARE JUST BEING DELUSIONAL. Like I said, if you think the cards are so damn expensive, LOOK ON EBAY, OR WAIT UNTIL THEY'RE REPRINTED. Chances are, the cards you want are going to go for a LOT less than you expect them to, or if not, they'll drop in price once the reprint comes out. And remember that it's only idiots like you who put these cards in such high demand thanks to your stupid, idiotic netdecking ways, that makes these cards "so rare" and "so expensive", NOT their fucking rarities.

First off your utilizing the word idiot in a slang context which is a improper use that was adopted only by school yard bullies to try to make others feel bad .Number 2 I'm not an idiot an idiot is some who takes no active role in public affairs such as politics etc. I'm very active in politics etc., I think that only to possible conclusions exist one you work for Konami as a druged up jerk distroying it from the inside or two your just making up numbers I know for fact that what I'm saying is truebut if I have to guess I think your just looking at the world through rose colored classes so don't expect me to reply to you again.

Making up numbers? I don't fucking think so; 1:24 chance of getting a Secret Rare, with a 1:8 chance that it would be the Secret Rare you want (1 Secret Rare in 24 packs, with 8 cards being Secret Rares), and a 1:5 chance of getting a Super Rare, with a 1:14 chance that one of those cards is the Super Rare you want (4-5 Supers in 24 packs, with 14 cards being Super Rares). YOU DO THE FUCKING MATH. Believe me, I did, agonizing how to convert ratios to percentages and asking everyone I knew how to do it, and the numbers I got were accurate. Hell, I even went so far as to calculate the chance of getting the card you want from the box if it was an Ultra Rare, and guess what I came up with: a 14.26% chance of getting an Ultra Rare (or its Ultimate Rare equivalent, since Ultra Rares are the ONLY rarity, currently, that has an Ultimate Rare version) in the set, with a 20% chance that THAT card happens to be the one you want, the greatest of ALL of the rarities that isn't common/normal Rare. Which is why people were complaining about how Super Rares were so damn hard to get, after hat rarity's Ultimate Rare versions were discontinued; statistically, you have better luck getting the card you need if it was ANY OTHER RARITY than Super, even if it was SECRET RARE. And again, THAT MEANS JACK FUCKING SHIT WHEN IT COMES TO HOW MUCH THE CARD IS WORTH! The ONLY thing that affects a card's cost is how much people want it for their bullshit netdecks, and whether or not the card's been reprinted, and that last one's ONLY applicable if the card is in such high demand, that finding a copy of it anywhere that someone is willing to part with is too much of a bitch to bother with. If you can't be bothered to look on fucking ebay for yourself, and check the prices, there, then YOU are the one wearing the rose-colored glasses, not me.

And how the fuck am I using the word "idiot" - which I've constantly used to refer to you and your stupidity - improper? IDIOT IS A FUCKING SLANG TERM, YOU MORON! THERE ARE NO OTHER USE FOR IT OTHER THAN TO REFER TO SOMEONE OR SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY FUCKING STUPID, LIKE YOU AND YOUR EXCUSES FOR LEAVING THE GAME! Are you the kind of person who thinks that all words only have one definition, and any other definitions used for them is wrong, even if they're in the dictionary? Fucking idiot...

Boy...

I would hate to see you guys duel....

Just calm down...

by the way...from my 5 packs of Sneak Participation I pulled my lovely Dark Rabbit.^^

(Ok, ok, I didn't pull any Dark Rabbit...a friend gave it to me. But in these 5 packs, I pulled only 2 Ghost Rare, 1 Secret Rare and 1 Super Rare, so by the way.)

(Ok...this was just sarcasm, in that way it is written...but it's the truth^^)